Sue spent 28 years working for customs before she retired at 55.

Despite having a lifelong pension, the feelings of isolation and under stimulation that accompanied her retirement led Sue to re-train as a personal trainer, star in reality TV show Surivor and become a celebrant.

Ian Whitworth is the co-founder of an audio visual company and believes people aren’t motivated enough to keep themselves busy in retirement.

Chris spoke with them both about the reality of retirement.

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